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  • Floater's Swing SG Guide

    Recently, I have been asked a ton about swing sg's builds and or stats, how to run it correctly, What skills to use, etc. So, I have decided to type up a guide on this unique style of playing SG. Let’s get started.

    Pros and Cons

    Pros
    ​1. Swing is the most flexible and dynamic among all styles of play.
    ​2. It is an all around scoring method from the 3pt to the paint.
    ​3. It has the strength to turn around a game in an instant
    ​4. Preforms the most dynamic plays among all styles.


    Cons
    ​​1. Highest turnover risk
    2. Hardest to learn and master
    3. Need a smart mindset and bold actions on every possession
    4. Highly mind game dependent


    Running swing
    There are two ways to go about playing swing sg


    1) Drive-in Swing.
    Drive-in swing is when the SG is going to be using drive-in and out dribbles and paint maneuvers to shake the defense to get a wide-open shot. Its focus is to mind game the other team. Drive-in Swing is the most dynamic way to go about playing swing. However, it still isn’t as stable as a Fly-oop/Flalley SG would be.

    2) Fly-oop/Flalley
    Fly-oop style is mainly focused on Floater and Alley-oop. You will shoot Floaters from your maximum layup range while being aware of court vision to throw alleys, jump pass, etc. Fly-oop has the best chance of success and playing it safe, Most stability and teamwork.


    Team placement

    C/PF Should be in the paint. Your big should post push the opposing big so you will be able to shoot a Floater, Layup, or jump pass. Also, if the opposite big is coming out to block your Floater, use Alley-oop pass. I will include an illustration of big placement. Correct and incorrect (Credit to Hanachan)

    This is the INCORRECT placement the C/PF should be



    This is the CORRECT Placement the C/PF should be


    PG Should maintain 90 degrees with the scorer. The PG should always look at the cheating defense and move around the corner or wing. Therefore, the SG will jump pass to the C and the C will nonstop to PG for a wide-open shot. Pgs should also be reading to recover any loose balls. (P.S. Use baseball) Here is an illustration of what I mean. (Credit to Hanachan)

    ​This is the INCORRECT placement the PG should be



    This is the CORRECT placement the PG should be
    Last edited by Floater; 12-23-2016, 04:35 AM.

  • #2
    SG needs to play from the 45-degree angle of the court. The SG will use Floater from the max range. The SG will use jump pass to mind game the other big. SG will use dribbling to get a wide-open shot. The SG will also use alley to throw to its big if they are coming out to block your Floater. I will leave an Illustration of the angle you should be swinging off of (Credit to Feather)

    ​This Illustration is good for knowing the court. You will mainly play from the "2 and 4"



    Simple strategy’s you can do are Moving screens, Pick and rolls, Pillar from the wing, your big can sometimes leave the paint often to set you a pick allowing you to maneuver around him. Thus, allowing you to backroll or drive in.


    Last edited by Floater; 12-23-2016, 06:04 PM.

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    • #3
      Skills for both styles of swing

      First and Foremost, We will start off with Fly-oop. Starting off with the skills that are a must have.


      1)Backroll turn III

      2)Jump pass III
      3)Alley oop pass I
      4)Double Clutch III
      5)Floater III
      6)Manual Layup III
      7)SP Middle III
      8)Long Range III
      9)SP Drive III

      Next 4 (5 if you have VIP), Are completely up to you. But for Flalley the skills would be
      10) Direct Pass I
      11) Diving Catch II
      12) Fade away III
      13) Kill pass III
      VIP Slot = Non-Stop pass I


      Second, We have drive-in SG. Once again, starting off with the skills that are a must have

      1)Backroll turn III
      2)Jump pass III
      3)Alley oop pass I
      4)Double Clutch III
      5)Floater III
      6)Manual Layup III
      7)SP Middle III
      8)Long Range III
      9)SP Drive III

      Next 4 (5 if you have VIP), Are completely up to you. This is what I am currently playing and skill set I am using

      10) Direct pass I
      11) Quick Jumper III
      12) Quick Change III
      13) V cut III
      VIP Slot = Fade Away III *Or whatever you prefer


      Last edited by Floater; 12-22-2016, 04:44 PM.

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      • #4
        Attributes, Building, Stats, etc.

        When starting a swing sg, your focus is to boost your layup as much as possible. You will need to try to hit the max layup in game. I recommend finding any Legend, rare, or even magics to try to reach that goal.

        Long layup attribute + range scales out like this

        210 +12
        212 +11
        214 +10
        216 +9……

        While it decreasing will be

        210 +12
        208 +13
        206 +14
        204 +15……….

        ​Best decks for swing would be an SP5 with layup range. SP4 with maxed out layup will also work as well. These are my current stats and cards for SG




        Here is what Max layup looks like on a SG
        Last edited by Floater; 12-22-2016, 05:15 PM.

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        • #5
          Replays and examples

          https://www.twitch.tv/hoshizora9508/v/109015660
          Great example of me (Drive-in) vs Hana (Fly-oop) Can be found in this very first clip. Observe my big as he sets moving screens, Pick and rolls, etc. Simple swing plays. Also, look at hana’s flyoop style, the post pushing and bigs position etc.

          Here are some YouTube examples coming straight out of Korea tournaments

          Drive-in
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuHJeDaXOHE

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrJiLq5teH0

          ​These first two clips are traditional swing SG. The skill set I posted for drive in is the exact same for the SG scorer in this video except they are using kill pass instead of fade away.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kcxY7R92rk&list=PLkWlRoHwRyz2QNifgjemBp2c BvgXbg0E2

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcLuWw5vvqw&index=2&list=PLkWlRoHwRyz2QNif gjemBp2cBvgXbg0E2

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7_M4RW4MPg&list=PLkWlRoHwRyz2QNifgjemBp2c BvgXbg0E2&index=7
          ​These three are also very similar.


          Fly-oop

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-pqhMQmX84&index=5&list=PLkWlRoHwRyz3r4dstH8BQWrkFF Z-J-P0G

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC85-5CeGmE&list=PLkWlRoHwRyz3r4dstH8BQWrkFFZ-J-P0G&index=22

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnwx9QAq03o&index=28&list=PLkWlRoHwRyz3r4d stH8BQWrkFFZ-J-P0G

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESOaO9gPms8&list=PLkWlRoHwRyz3r4dstH8BQWrk FFZ-J-P0G&index=29
          Last edited by Floater; 12-22-2016, 05:03 PM.

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          • #6
            wow to much thing for learn nice guide flo
            Last edited by LBX_MASTER; 12-22-2016, 12:36 PM.

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            • #7
              Let me know when you finish the guide, I can change the name to have it without the (Work in Progress) !

              Overall, very detailed and fun looking guide you got here, + 1

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              • #8
                Any more questions? Anything I missed? Let me know by replying to my thread.

                Message my discord @ Floater#1443

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Floater View Post
                  Any more questions? Anything I missed? Let me know by replying to my thread.

                  Message my discord @ Floater#1443
                  Yeah, where's the drive-in style for the people that I taught you

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JL1015 View Post
                    Yeah, where's the drive-in style for the people that I taught you
                    Let us begin.

                    ​There is also a 3rd swing style that not many players can do. This style is called "FTF!"

                    Skill set
                    ​1) SP Middle III
                    2) SP Drive III
                    3) Fancy Drive I
                    4) V cut III
                    5) Manual Layup III
                    ​6) Quick Change III
                    ​7) Floater III
                    8) Double clutch III
                    9) Alley Oop Pass I
                    ​10) Jump pass III
                    ​11) Drive fake I
                    12) Backroll turn III
                    ​13) Quick Jumper III

                    ​VIP Slot = Euro Step.



                    ​The build is still the same as Fly-oop or Traditional. Nothing changes. You will need your layup range. Drive speed is optional but helps out a ton with this style of play. You can find examples of this @ https://www.twitch.tv/lemniscatefs​


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                    • #11
                      the 3rd style if more shot or attack the mid and the paint right?

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                      • #12
                        nice guide dawg

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                        • #13
                          I was thinking about learning swing with my DG. Thanks for the guide, very helpful.

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                          • #14
                            nice guide! gonna share this to my crew!

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                            • #15
                              Floater the Screen Eater, thanks for the guide.

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